π2 = 9.87.
The approximate numerical equality of these numbers is not a coincidence.
I was reminded of this by Mark Dominus' post John Wilkins invents the meter, which I found via his post The Wilkins pendulum mystery resolved. In 1668, John Wilkins defined the meter to be essentially the length of the "seconds pendulum", i. e. the pendulum whose period is two seconds (the "mystery" there is that since one wants a pendulum with a light cord and a heavy bob, one has to take into account the moment of inertia of the heavy spherical bob to define this correctly). This turns out to be about 39.1 inches.
A meter is 39.37 inches.
Indeed, originally the length of the seconds pendulum was going to be the length of the meter, but the slightly different suggestion was adopted instead that the meter would be one part in 107 of the distance from the North Pole to the Equator via Paris. (Now, in fact, the meter is defined by assuming the second known and stating the speed of light.) Wikipedia tells me that these definitions were adopted in 1790, 1791, and 1983 respectively; there are others intermediate between the last two.)
The period of a pendulum is approximately T = 2π(L/g)1/2, where L is its length and g is the acceleration due to gravity. If we set T = 2 and L = 1, and solve for g, we get g = π2.
I suspect that the reason the seconds pendulum wasn't adopted is that the formula for the period involves the small-angle approximation; in reality the period of a pendulum depends not only on its length and on the acceleration due to gravity but also on the angle through which it swings. The period is given by
and so the fractional magnitude of the error is about 1/4 sin2 (θ/2); if θ is, say, one degree this is one part in about fifty thousand, or nearly two seconds a day. That error would become an error in the definition of the meter, and perhaps the Powers that Were thought that was a bit too much. (I'm not sure how accurate surveying was at the time, though, so I can't comment on the accuracy of their eventual definition based on the size of the Earth.)
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the fact that pi^2 is nearly the same as g is urely a coincidence, since g is only g on earth - on the moon its waayyy less and on Jupiter its waayyy more.
go take a physics course or something
Yes, but the metric system was developed on Earth.
Anonymous cowards:
Isabel is right. Go read her post or something.
The gravitational constant g has a roughly constant value near the surface of the earth. That value has certain units. As we change our system of units, the numerical value of g changes with them.
What Isabel is pointing out is that at least one definition of "meter" over the years has been designed so that the numerical value of g coincides with the number pi^2.
Next time you decide to attack something you don't understand, have the spine to attatch your name to your senseless rantings.
That error would become an error in the definition of the meter, and perhaps the Powers that Were thought that was a bit too much. (I'm not sure how accurate surveying was at the time, though, so I can't comment on the accuracy of their eventual definition based on the size of the Earth.)
For a fascinating discussion of both these issues, I highly recommend The Measure of All Things, by Ken Alder. It's not always the most exciting book ever, but for anyone interested in the history of science, it's a must-read!
Yes, but the metric system was developed on Earth.
That's just what they want you to think... :)
g=(pi)^2 is taken only for simplifying calculations.
g=(pi)^2 is taken only for simplifying calculations.
Yes, of course g is not exactly pi^2 m/s^2, because the length of a seconds pendulum was never actually adopted as the definition of the meter*! The definition that was adopted, however, was close enough that pi^2 m/s^2 is still a pretty good approximation.
Which part of Isabel's post aren't you getting?
* And because g varies depending on where on Earth you are... but let's not get into that. :)
Aaron,
it wouldn't surprise me to learn that they wanted to fix the length of the meter as the length of the seconds pendulum at Paris, mirroring the actual first definition of the meter as one ten-millionth of the distance from the North Pole to the equator through Paris.
Although g might not vary enough over the surface of the Earth for that to become an issue; the error in the small-angle approximation might swamp that.
Great post. I was not aware of Wilkins' part in the definition of the meter, but from what I know of Wilkins it doesn't surprise me one bit. Thanks for that!
Isabel -- You're right... now that you mention it, that wouldn't surprise me one bit. Damn French! :)
In my humble opinion g ~ π² is the same coincidence as the fact that one ten-millionth of the length of the Earth's meridian along a quadrant ~ the length of a pendulum with a half-period of one second.
Jan Amler
I'm sure you know, but you may want to point out that the small angle approximation isn't necessary at all - we can solve the equations of motions for the simple pendulum exactly _if_ we allow ourselves to use elliptic functions!
Because our functions live on the torus instead of the circle we get two periods instead of one - going through the math you can check that one of them is purely real (which corresponds to the actual, measured, period of the pendulum).
What is the other one? It is purely imaginary. If the pendulum is swinging out to a maximum angle of theta, the imaginary period tells you the measured period of a pendulum swinging out to pi minus theta!!
I guess this was one of the earliest applications of elliptic functions, and to me, is still one of the most fascinating!
Hmm the second is also defined from Earth circunference: it is a fraction of the period it takes to turn.
So we have two natural units of length and time:
L: the perimeter of the Earth
T: the rotation period
and we define s, m such that
m* 40000 = s*4*10^3= L
s* 86400 = s*2*5*5*12^3 = T
I like the fact that while m uses the decimal system, s uses sexagesimal.
Now, what amuses me is that you set a pendulum of 1 meter length and 2 seconds period. Because, in "earth natural units"
1 meter = 1/40000 L
2 seconds = 1/43200 T
That should be a coincidence.
more about this here
at the universe of discourse.
VME
anonymous,
thanks, but you'll see that I already linked to Mark's post at Universe of Discourse!
I think folks are getting bogged down in what's a coincidence or not. It looks like Isabel is trying to tell us that g ~ π2 is because Wilkes essentially tried to define it that way in a roundabout way throught the definition of a mter, but a meter ended up to be defined using the Earth's surface instead and thus g is only close to π2.
arivero has the more interesting point - Why is g ~ π2 when the meter is defined the way it is? Using the Earth based length and time units (great idea!) you have the coincidence of ~1/40,000 showing up in both 1 meter and a 2 second pendulum.
The time depends on how fast the earth rotates, and that's related to the formation of the earth and whatever random smack made the moon and slowed the Earth, and not necessarily to any fundamental property of the universe.
g ~ π2 - still or not a coincidence?
What a cool post - I noticed g was very close to pi^2 when I was a kid, and always wondered why. So now I know. Why pi^2 is quite close to 10 was also something of an intriguing mystery, and can't be muddied by issues of units. (Noam Elkies has a nice little note about this.)Taking these together we have a splendid simplifying approximation for use with MKS units.
BTW, I'm not sure your finite amplitude analysis is quite right - maybe thetamax/2 should be replaced by sin^2(thetamax) - and the whole thing recognised as a complete elliptic integral, Old skool rules.
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